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Sombra
10-09-2005, 06:11 AM
it's been soooo long since I've RPd the way I once did...

my life has changed in so many ways since the "good ol' days"...

I graduated high school, moved from NY to MD to FL and now I'm in Albuquerque, NM....

I still love to flirt... but seriously only with my husband. I love seeing everyone, the posts, the roleplay... hell I love to RP still IRL. I miss the days of old yet... I don't know.

Things have changed so much for me. I just could never act the way I once did...

is that stupid? lol

LadyChina
10-09-2005, 06:25 AM
I dunno... I was always pretty much a silly bitch. I think I'm doing a fairly good job carrying on the tradition started long ago.

In detail, what behavior exactly is it that you no longer feel you can engage in?

Bourne
10-22-2005, 04:10 PM
I lack the innocence that those times brought... it seems the influx of games since lack a good vehicle for roleplay. True, it is in within one's own heart whether they can hold the torch of roleplay, but it is increasingly difficult with the proliferation of kEwL DooDz looking for pHaT LeWtZ...

LadyChina
10-22-2005, 05:17 PM
*glances at Bourne's Yserbius epi*

Uh huh. Innocence.

Dolnor
10-22-2005, 10:45 PM
One of the priorities of good roleplaying is the suspension of your Real Life. Forget about the bills, the jerks at work/school, your tasks that needing to be done around the house, the weather, the neighbors, everything. Return back to a time when stress didn't exist, when doing your homework was done on the bus on the way to school, when the biggest daily burden was trying to squeeze in another hour of play...after the sun went down and before your parent starts yelling for you to come home.

So many of us get caught in the "must worry/stress every moment of my life" treadmill. Guess what, if you don't think about it for 2 hours...it will still be there waiting for you when you start stressing again...so don't worry about it! -)

Can you get down on your hands and knees and play with children...or do you just stand there watching them play...hoping you could join in? No one will laugh at you if you play with them. In fact, they will be envious that you can suspend your Life to recapture that sense of play.

Toodles,

Dolnor
Child at Heart
Eternal Newbie

LadyChina
10-22-2005, 11:17 PM
*gets down on her hands and knees*

Let's play, Dolnar! :)

LadyChina
10-22-2005, 11:19 PM
Suspension is never an issue, por moi! Tres bien!

*is still waiting for Dolnar to start a game of leap frog*


Hellllllooooooo!

Yor
10-23-2005, 01:27 PM
Bourne, I think you expressed my thoughts exactly.

For me, it is very difficult with todays MMORPGs to really get into my characters when I'm surrounded by people who either 1) can't communicate without bastardizing the English language with their d00d-speak, 2) totally disrespect other players in their quest to get the phat lewt, or 3) or over-analyze the crap out of the game mechanics.

However, since I've been playing EverQuest in Dec 99, I've run into some people who really take advantage of the game world to get into character. On Tunare, there is (was?) two role playing guilds that were always fun to watch. They were co-guilds, one for the light side, one for the dark side. They made up a history, developed amazing storylines, and actually included outsiders in their role-plays if the people followed their rules. The guild leader of the guild I was in was good friends with one of the RP guilds' leaders and once in a while our guild members could RP with them. Even if we weren't the best roleplayers they were very gracious in guiding us, and even let our actions affect their stories.

The funny thing about EQ though is that people on the 'Role Playing Preferred' server of Firiona Vie, are actually chastised for staying in character. /boggle

Lord_Cie
10-23-2005, 02:49 PM
For me, it is very difficult with todays MMORPGs to really get into my characters when I'm surrounded by people who either 1) can't communicate without bastardizing the English language with their d00d-speak, 2) totally disrespect other players in their quest to get the phat lewt, or 3) or over-analyze the crap out of the game mechanics.

Aye, I saw a bit of this in my time playing World of Warcraft. It's tough to speculate what's happened since Yserbius, but I do think it's the wide availability of computers, and the increased ease of using them. I would say 11-15 years ago, you had to have a bit of intelligence, just to keep changing your config.sys and autoexec.bat . Plug and play brings out the wretched hive of scum and villainy :P

The old days are not totally dead, though. I've been in some interesting guilds in the past few years. I was in one guild for SWG and WoW that would have been perfect (flexible group from RP to no RP, nice Ventrilo server, cool people for the most part), if not for the ranks and heirarchy. They had these whacked out elaborate ceremonies (read: Puffed up) for new recruits and becoming an officer that would have put KOY in its heyday to shame. Good times, a pity their problems outweighed the fun in the end :(

LadyChina
10-23-2005, 04:55 PM
When EQ first went public, Grimster The Merc - a dark elf - was asked by some light and life human to hold all his equipment while he went to get another character or something. Grimster agreed, then acted like the dark elf he was and disappeared with it all. He had his account suspended for his roleplaying excellence. Apparently roleplay is only supposed to extend to accents and attitudes. How silly. I'd never ask a dark elf to hold anything I wasn't willing to lose or have tainted forever. Sheesh.

Yor
10-23-2005, 09:58 PM
Grimster agreed, then acted like the dark elf he was and disappeared with it all. He had his account suspended for his roleplaying excellence. Apparently roleplay is only supposed to extend to accents and attitudes.

I don't know Grimster's player, so my comments aren't really directed at his actions. Too many times I've seen players take advantage of other players and then try to justify their actions by saying they were 'roleplaying'. No, they weren't roleplaying. They were using the game as an outlet for their mean spirited real life attitudes and/or lack of maturity. That's not to say that the 'victims' aren't also responsible. You can only be taken advantage of if you allow it (save for people who, for whatever reason, aren't able to understand what is going on).

However, it is just a game. In the end, all you have to do is 'camp out' and leave the in-game idiots behind for the idiots you meet in real life. :D

To comment on the account suspension, since Grimster was such a good roleplayer, I'm sure he took it in stride and realized one of the GMs was 'roleplaying' a diety that took offense to his actions and decided to banish him from existance. ;)

LadyChina
10-23-2005, 11:23 PM
So, whats the line of roleplay? I've spent years as "Lady China" posting as "Lady China" with her words, her mannerisms, and her views on life and death, and JUST found out, thanks to Kyrandos and his insider's tip "Ah, most people don't roleplay on the posting boards or in IRC". Oh REALLY?

So, I go to the KAAOS boards or the Mercs boards or the Regulator's boards and I'm supposed to go there as what? A mother? A wife? A postal worker? I can see how I might go to "Real FOLKS dot com" as that, but to a GUILD board of ROLEPLAY GAMERS? I'm supposed to give them a "HEADS UP"- this isn't really ME, this is LADY CHINA. Is that penalty for maintaining a name for so long?

You think "roleplay" is some really strenuous OVERT thinking process that one has to engage in in order for it to truly be "roleplay"? You don't think that people that hang out in KAAOS and the Mercs have been traveling down a dark path (in action and verbiage) in games for so long that anything they do is part of their PERSONNA of chaos/evil? So you're going to judge somebody for being so good for so long at their chosen style of roleplay?

I was at a renassiance festival a couple years ago and they had a "Squire training" take place. All the boys ages five to ten were invited to the center of a field, with their wooden swords and shields. In the center of the circle they formed was one of the "real" knights of the festival. Full leather armor, real sword (not sharpened I hope), and the real attitude of a Knight. This was not some "roleplay", where there was a little tickle of the real deal, but no damage done. No - this Knight schooled the boys with questions and demands, one boy he decided wasn't doing as well as he should. He took this boy by the scruff of his neck, pulled him out into the middle of the field, and made the other boys laugh with his mockery, while the crowd of adults grew ever silent. Finally he said, "You're not to be a squire!" and sent him running back to his mother in the crowd. Crying. I thought he'd gone too far. Way too far for the sake of his "role" as a Knight. Way past the socially accepted venues of "acting" with the crowd. In this case, Yor. I would say this was roleplay taken too far. So there are cases.

As for Grimster and his dark elf behavior - whats the line for you? Is it okay for him to yell insults at the person? To perhaps emote a "spit"? Just not to do what a sly dark elf would do, no doubt, and befriend a fool and relieve him of his goods? At what point do you start worrying about the emotional damage done by a dark elf's insults? What if the person he was interacting with just had a really really low tolerance for being called a stupid human? At what point is roleplay OKAY - when its not the airy fairy falalalalalalalala kind?

You did read about the guy that went and killed another player for selling his rare item didn't you? So I suppose we're all taking risks in whatever behaviors we're engaging in.

Personally I find the false face of a harmonic to be the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. Sucker punches from the one selling lollipops. I admire all of KAAOS and all the Mercs there has ever been, because though they pack a hell of a blow, they're up front about their desire to dole it out.

The person that banned Grimster's account was abusing power. If you're going to have an "evil" race - you best define what "evil" is before you even start the game. What the hell, can I get an amen for some sort of racist crap going on? If all that makes a dark elf EVIL is his darkness - I think the NAACP needs to get involved. Or, could a dark elf show his wicked nature by stealing the armor of a stupid human...

Yor
10-24-2005, 12:26 AM
I don't have an issue with a dark elf taking advantage of a human. I often wonder why all the races who hate each other always seem to be in groups. :) (Yes, yes, I know, dark elves are just using the high elves to futher their own interests...sigh)

As for where the line gets drawn between roleplay and real life? One example is if a transaction was 'out of character'. That is, PlayerX is asking PlayerY to hold some items so they can transfer them to PlayerX's other character. It's a little inconvenient for PlayerY to switch to his light-side worshipping do-gooder knight when his sly, evil, take advantage of any situation necromancer is already logged in. :)

I guess I should have been more clear in my post, or maybe I was, and I'm not clear on your response. I wasn't judging Grimster, or his situation. I was commenting on people who aren't roleplaying, but like to act like jerks because they think they can, and then fall back on the 'roleplaying' excuse when they get called before a GM. (My comment about Grimster's suspension was tongue-in-cheek, by the way. I was just being a smart-ass. Somewhere in my post I think I did say that 'victims' are just as responsible for what happens to them. But hey, we live in a world of people trying to pass off responsibility for what happens to them because of their own stupidity. Why else would the U.S. Congress have to consider a law banning lawsuits against fast food companies because the people ate fast food and got fat?)

Lord_Cie
10-24-2005, 01:55 AM
Sometimes it's important to roleplay race. For example. My character on SWG was Wookiee, and one of my best friends was ... Trandoshan?! I should have ripped his arms off!

Ah geek alarm is on.

I will shut up now :)

Sombra
10-24-2005, 02:56 PM
as mentioned, it's not that I don't enjoy or cannot seem to RP anymore..


it's that I acted very immature in my ways of RP during the YS times.. I never saw myself that bad but the extreme flirting and need for attention that came from so many of the women online at that time... it just amazes me to think about now. Do women still act that way online these days? It sickens me to think of it now... Anyway I miss playing the character "Sombra" but she will never be the same as she once was.

Though I am considering bringing back "SombyTalk" ... but afraid of how many folks would see it as a simple form of l33t speak =/

Ah well.. point is that I have too much respect for myself these days to RP in a manner of desperation or attention whoring for lack of better words... and anyone asking me to go into detail of things I have admitted to not feeling comfortable with probably never will understand what I'm talking about.

LadyChina
10-24-2005, 04:38 PM
So why bring it up if you don't want to talk about it? And the logic of "Well, I don't feel comfortable roleplaying "BlAH" - THEREFORE - I can't even discuss what "BLAH" used to entail - is faulty. And never assume that people won't understand something because they actually responded with interest to you. How is anybody to ever understand anything if questions aren't asked?

So, what I'm hearing is that "roleplay" wasn't really involved in the behavior you were uncomfortable with. It was a personal need, not the character flaws or quirks of some "personna".

An agreed upon vocabulary is the cornerstone of logical and critical arguement. If you're talking about roleplay thats one thing, if you're talking about your lack of personal need for attention like you used to have thats another.

Maybe somebody else can fill me in on what the hell you're talking about. The best advice I can give is to not place a post regarding something you don't really want people to delve in to.

Bourne
10-25-2005, 01:39 PM
The person that banned Grimster's account was abusing power. If you're going to have an "evil" race - you best define what "evil" is before you even start the game. What the hell, can I get an amen for some sort of racist crap going on? If all that makes a dark elf EVIL is his darkness - I think the NAACP needs to get involved. Or, could a dark elf show his wicked nature by stealing the armor of a stupid human...

That would be the NAABP.... National Association for the Advancement of Blue People...


Hey, those same abuses were evident in Yserbius. I was banned by INNSara for smoking "Troll Weed". When she couldn't ban me for that, she'd send warnings for me eating Aldbora pods - saying it was a drug reference. Aldbora pods were in the game, a quest item if I recall... (nature's quest? memory...). Who was she to have me banned for such a thing? Personal vendettas always get in the way....

I got into a long philosophical debate with whoever the head of the GMs was on the phone, off duty, at her house. I forget her name, only that she was in a pretty bad car accident that day and not in a good mood. She didn't have a leg to stand on either, and she knew it. In conclusion, her only argument was "It's our game and we'll run it as we please".

Can't argue with that logic....

Bourne
10-25-2005, 02:12 PM
As for rogues, well, I've seen numerous ones rip people off and exclaim "WTF dOoD I'm roleplaying". Wouldn't it be just as easy to roleplay picking their pocket or items? Stealing "real" items is a problem in that real time was put in to acquire the 1's and 0's that make up that item. Not roleplay time... real user time.

On the other hand if a rogue were to roleplay the theft, chances are the victim would say "WTF?" and just go about his business. That to me would be enough of an indication that person/victim is not into roleplay, is not into the forced scenario. So then the "rogue" takes it a step further... let's piss off the player and force the desired reaction by annoying the person in real life. That's where I think roleplay ends. I'm not suggesting you fall into this cataegory, LC - I know better - but it is all over the place and in your face.

Most haven't the training or patience to roleplay a scene these days. Personally, I try to accomodate anyone who roleplays with me but look where my roots are... look where our roots are. We are different. I don't say that in an attempt at elitism (a trap many roleplayers fall into however), but it is what it is. Ours was a different time and those who embraced it were fortunate, I feel.

Yor
10-25-2005, 03:11 PM
As for rogues, well, I've seen numerous ones rip people off and exclaim "WTF dOoD I'm roleplaying". Wouldn't it be just as easy to roleplay picking their pocket or items? Stealing "real" items is a problem in that real time was put in to acquire the 1's and 0's that make up that item. Not roleplay time... real user time.

I think this is the point I was trying to make but wasn't quite able to put it into words the right way. Sometimes I can't write my way out of a wet paper notebook. /sigh :)

Sombra
10-25-2005, 03:24 PM
lol

Roleplay will always be part self.. it cannot be otherwise. Everything you do in life is part self.

It's no one's place to judge how another roleplays or how they define roleplaying.. if you feel as if your RP style has changed since the YS days then you already know what I meant by my original post. No need to ask for specific details... :)

Leah
10-25-2005, 03:59 PM
I have to be the world's worst role player, but I do try! MRA still semi-role plays as it always did. We role play a royal family. Sadly, since Asheron's Call, we haven't done anything with our beautiful ceremonies, and don't even swear newbies in like we once did, except at our rl gatherings. Now, thx for my beloved Sethiel, I have a real sword to cut off ears with when we induct members! When we go to Ren Faires during our gatherings, we wear our costumes and one year we even sang The Dragon Song in the food court...the poor people who heard us...none of us could sing a note! LOL But we have fun! And that year we spread the word that the Empress (that's me!) was traveling incognito as her life was in danger in our homeland! I dressed as a medieval street musician that year <s>! We have more fun at the Ren Faires! My rl hubby goes with us and he is usually the hit of the Faires...he is the clan of the teddy bear...I don't know what would happen if his costume ever wore out! LOL

I think it was so much easier to rl though in Yserbius...because everyone was into it! I cut my role playing teeth there...and I love Yserbius and always will!

Love,
Leah
Empress of MRA

Bourne
10-25-2005, 05:41 PM
lol

Roleplay will always be part self.. it cannot be otherwise. Everything you do in life is part self.



I am nothing like my rude, over-inflated egoed, drunken, obnoxious, womanizing character.

I swear it - no matter what everyone else says!

Liars, the whole lot of them...

Sombra
10-25-2005, 10:17 PM
lol

Yor
10-25-2005, 11:43 PM
Roleplay will always be part self.. it cannot be otherwise. Everything you do in life is part self.

When I roleplay, all my characters tend to be 'good aligned' mostly because I have no real life point of reference to play an 'evil aligned' character. I'm not even sure what an evil character is supposed to do. I think I need to watch some horror movies, read a good Anne Rice book, do some research on dictators, SOMETHING, so I can get a good naughty character going. :)

SirKilll
11-04-2005, 07:44 AM
duh,,,what's roleplay? :wink:

only role I play is a big old pita, whether in Deadz or Merc attitude {and they are VERY different}...

hmmm...wife says I do that in the r/w also... :roll: damn, caught agin'

so,,,what is roleplay? :twisted:



hey Somby :wink:

Sombra
11-04-2005, 08:38 PM
{{{{{ SK }}}}}}


:twisted:

innfreak
11-24-2005, 10:11 PM
Tell me who DIDN'T enjoy going into the tavern to regale of your day's events spent adventuring with a group? I miss that so much and I even roleplayed, which I do NOT do now. The whole innocence of something new. I was so hooked. I was a Senior in college and had to work more hours to pay for my new 'habit' remember how you had to pay by the minutes to play it? ugh how terrible that was, my bill was always more than the $12.99/month it costs now to play a MMORPG

LadyChina
11-24-2005, 11:16 PM
How about 150.00 dollars a month. On the other hand, 150.00 a month allowed me to meet the love of my life - Balor. Unexpected blessings from monthly bills do flow, amen.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Sombra
11-25-2005, 05:18 AM
was all about the game I played & payed for monthly that lead me to my now husband... god bless the internet, Turbine, & Asheron's Call!

innfreak
11-25-2005, 05:21 AM
LOL yep, my bills were roughly the same, give or take a few $$. I met a guy in the game. All we did was chat. I would play FoT and he would pop in the volcano just to chat with me, he never played the game. I remember his in game name but I can't for the life of me remember mine. :( I was in a guild too and I can remember some chat/hack to get a key and get heaps of coin

I saw another post about someone recreating the tavern. Is that still operational? I would love to hear the music and see the ole hangout where I spent my time downing ale and warming myself by the fire.. "hail and well met" ahhh sniff :(

innfreak
11-25-2005, 07:33 AM
OH!! and i just remembered... there was NOTHING better than playing FoT, SoY or RoC while watching the new episodes of Beverly Hills, 90210 and Melrose Place. OMG that was just absolute HEAVEN for me and now with soapnet airing BH and MP I'm back in 1993 and 1994. I can remember my roommate in college just absolutely detesting my time I spent playing TSN/INN and she'd always try to get me come out and party with her, but I preferred to stay indoors and play :)

Sombra
11-28-2005, 05:07 AM
ok, it's official... I was just TOO young during those days to really have any good grasp on how I was supposed to act back then RoFL :p

I barely had dreams of college when TSN came out... hell, I was dreaming of driving at that point ;)

BloodCelt
11-28-2005, 06:51 AM
I was already so old back then that I could hear my bones creak already.

Sombra
11-28-2005, 09:49 PM
I think that's why I love the internet so much... age is such a small part of so many communities :) Especially with gaming!

LadyChina
11-29-2005, 10:07 PM
Unfortunately, as my many years with the PKers of the worlds has proven - so is humor, humility, and wisdom. I knew I should have been hanging out with the guilds of comedian monks.

Sombra
11-30-2005, 03:43 PM
humor is a small part of online communities?


if you say so. rofl

LadyChina
11-30-2005, 05:01 PM
*Pulls out the ever handy DIAGRAM O' SUBTLE INSULTS.*

Now. ya see, what we have here in the phrase "...as my many years with the "PKers" of the Worlds" has proven (or words to that effect)... is an insult to The Mercs, KAAOS, The Regulators, Covetous Crew...etc. - which isn't to say its TRUE. It was an insult, broadcast on a very low frequency. Oh, and spoken in loving tones.

I heartily approve of the "If you say so" attitude, however. Thats just the way I like the world to go - the way I say so.

So, I'm still REALLY curious as to what it was you were doing that scarred your psyche so badly that you can't even discuss what it was you used to do as a high school student online. Of course, as has been previously discussed - I just wouldn't understand. Did it involve kangaroos? There was that one time, well... I just really don't even want to go there. Anybody that needs me to explain about kangaroos - just wouldn't get it anyway.

SunShadow
11-30-2005, 06:15 PM
So, I'm still REALLY curious as to what it was you were doing that scarred your psyche so badly that you can't even discuss what it was you used to do as a high school student online. Of course, as has been previously discussed - I just wouldn't understand. Did it involve kangaroos? There was that one time, well... I just really don't even want to go there. Anybody that needs me to explain about kangaroos - just wouldn't get it anyway.

ROFL, LC.. you crack me up! ;)

Kyrandos
11-30-2005, 11:54 PM
[quote="Now. ya see, what we have here in the phrase "...as my many years with the "PKers" of the Worlds" has proven (or words to that effect)... is an insult to The Mercs, KAAOS, The Regulators, Covetous Crew...etc. - which isn't to say its TRUE. It was an insult, broadcast on a very low frequency. Oh, and spoken in loving tones.
[/quote]

Hi, please remove The Regulators from your list. Thanks!

LadyChina
12-01-2005, 12:12 AM
*bows extremely low, fingertips to her forehead* As you wish...so shall it be.

The Regulators don't qualify. But I did really like Jimmy. JIMMY WHERE ARE YOU!?!?

Sombra
12-01-2005, 04:53 PM
all roleplay.... in some part.... carries a part of self. for some... that's quite a shame if I do say so myself.



I've grown up since those days, I've matured for lack of a better term. I carry myself a lot more confident now and I treat others and myself with a LOT more respect than I ever used to. I've learned that the way I act online in communities such as this very community here, really can leave an impression on others.


Some people... I suppose... have never learned that.


I'll be requesting this thread be locked. I never should have started in the first place. I hope you all had your fun. This will probably be my last post here as I just don't feel welcome as I thought I would.

slohand
12-01-2005, 05:02 PM
Oh my!

The Sub tones of this Thread is a bit much.

I would hate to appear the ogre here by locking threads in order to prevent this sort of of sideways pokes and insults.

This type of behavior is not what Yserbius was or is about. I spent as much or more time online as anyone here and never witnessed such behavior.

I do not feel it is appropriate here at ys.org either. but thats my opinion.

The old adage if you do not have anything good to say DONT!. applies here in this particular instance. nuf said! Slo

LadyChina
12-01-2005, 07:06 PM
MUHAHAHAHA! AN OGRE! *claps for glee* By god its been a long time since I had to use my Lotion of Ogre Potion. I am prepared however! *greases up*

But first...

Sombra - Don't Worry - Be Happy. I am very confrontational. It comes with being part of the PK world I so lovingly insulted previous to this. I asked Slohand prior to my first exhalation on this site if he were prepared for the gifts I bring - some are divine, others may be felt as more of a punishment (did you know there are people that consider punishment a gift? Such an interesting world we live in). Some are just sorta boring. I wouldn't let me get you down. Nor would I take the reactions of others to a momentary diversion as indicative of the level of welcome extended to you. You are welcome, I can feel it - I am welcome too. Everybody is welcome. I wish Kyrandos would make himself welcome more often, I really haven't gotten enough bended knee time in lately. And Balor... well.

Whatever impression it is I'm making, it most certainly is the one intended. The question that remains is - Is it for effect? Or is it a deeply ingrained mode of behavior? There are very few people that could answer that one, but I welcome speculation from all sources, if nobody has anything better to do - like watch paint dry or umm..

OKAY! NOW WHERE'S THE OGRE!?! *looks around hopefully*

SunShadow
12-01-2005, 07:34 PM
Okay.. my two sense.. for the record.

ASIDE from the whole Sombra/LC thing.. taking them out of this because I do not want to make this personal in any way. And I'm sure Sombra is very welcomed here.. as we all are, I hope. I would hate to see her leave because people and all the different personalities are what make this board what it is.


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This IS what YS was about. My gosh.. it happened every second in tav... bickering back and forth.. making fun of people.. calling them out in public and waiting for them to come up with something witty right back atcha. Most people knew this going into the tavern and they were prepared for it, some wheren't and never came back, I suppose. Most that stayed got along really well one on one.. made fun of each other in public and then laughed about it in private messages behind the scenes.
I was KAAOS for goodness sake..all be it that I was one of the "nice" KAAOSers.. and the ONLY KAAOS to be harmony in the history of KAAOS most likely.. but, I was surrounded by total jerks (I mean that in the most loving way because they were my family back then). It was a HUGE part of the game... and I miss that about YS. That people were able to handle the pokes and jabs and stand up for themselves and not take things personal even when it's directed at them.. they knew the other person was just joking around and if it came down to it they had their back too. It was very amusing to witness some people's wit and humor at lighting fast pace (if you remember the spam of the tav and how fast the words were thown out there)

Maybe that's not what is appropriate here. That's your call and I respect that.. but to say it didn't happen back then and that YS wasn't about this.. is not accurate, with all due respect :)

slohand
12-01-2005, 07:52 PM
Ok maybe i should restate myself,

I will agree picking on others was in Yserbius. but it was a even playing field and was never OOC one did not exploit a perceived weakness of another by inference or otherwise. perhaps on occasion it did occur i am sure it would be possible, such people would not maintain a good standing in the community for very long in the circles i traveled in.

Roleplay was kept in character discussion of anything OOC was merely for reference or OOC conversation. Judgment, Inuendo, Rumors, or Inference of anything less than appropriate was never an issue.

I did not point a finger at anyone in particluar there are several people here who can be guilty of taking things to seriously.

I have pretty much stayed out of everything that goes on the site here as things tend to work themselves out. But having laundry aired in public needs to end. I do not care to see it, and I am sure others do not want to as well. This is a Website for Yserbians that promotes all things Yserbian and not the WWF.

So yea perhaps i overstated myself in saying it never happened in YS. This fact does not make it acceptable here and now. It just is not nice. and when i am subject to private messages telling me people are leaving because of behavior i helped facilitate by not attempting to control it from getting out of hand I find myself partly responsible. To date 4 people have quit for various reasons related to similiar cricumstance with no one particualr person to blame. So to expect me to continue to stand by and not say any thing would be ludricous at best. This site was created for the enjoyment of all Yserbsians young and old and not for the few. We are all adults here so lets play nice, play fair within the realm of Roleplay and keep all other issues on the other side of the screen.

with that consider this thread locked for good, There is not need to continue this topic as it out of date..

/LOCKED/